We were together in high school. Michael Red: The family, I know, that's big for you in that culture and what you try to create as a culture is family. It's kind of like the joy of, like I said, I was a rough athlete compared to the Olympian and All-Star I'm talking to. It is so important that kind of at least in our infrastructure. Peter: So my ring sits in my underwear drawer in our house which is like, great and its got readily accessibleI mean its huge. I watch it. Its not really in a place where I could tell you, like, hey, heres our growth potential. Peter Feigin: I mean, my mouth just watered. How do we build the plumbing? Is this coming? A billionaire? By the way, its so much fun. "You will be in a business meeting on Monday with one of the 300-500 business executives in the town and you will see them some place later that week or the week after, unlike in New York City," he says. That was, Peter: That was it. It was July. But that kind of thing. Thanks for listening. So, of course, he's just had enough. And to think it all started at a private school in New York City. Peter Feigin: Yeah. Peter Feigin: Hey, John thanks for having me. Michael Red: You talked about Coach Bud and the whole team organization, which I think Coach Bud has done a terrific job thus far. Its incredible and not many people get to do it, lets be honest, when you get to actually live your dream and go to the top. Its been talked about the whole Giannis effect. So, we stopped having basketball games and we stopped having concerts and we stopped. We thought we were a progressive, pretty forward thinking organization. Our dinner table conversation. Michael Red: And this was a decade long process, Peter? Kevin Draughon, a former student at Trevor Day School, drove on Dan Feigin, who runs the pickup games on Saturdays at the schools gym. Kevin Draughon, who participates in the games, sat with Dylan Feigin and her brother, Jackson. It found him. I had this tendency, which I still do, to get so excited and loud. Feigin can do all the PR he wants, but the most effective pitch to get fans into the new arena is out of his hands. Like the Kees, you're going to hopefully be doing something you love with people you love and working your butt off, but there are expectations. You talk about advantages, just the osmosis at our dinner table was I knew in two seconds like I wanted to be in business. In a perfect world, how do we mesh them together to have one and one equal three? . Not only do you have to have the best facilities, the best resources, no reason for anybody to say, What want to be, you got to be good people. We've made it really authentic and localized with what our food and beverage offerings are going to be. This is all a good launch point for Feigin to introduce a state-of-the-art arena. I'm so proud of him and the team and the roster. It was one of these terrible times where, when youre in pro sport, you book all your revenue, you do all your dirty business before tip-off and if they didnt have somebody to run the business in July, it wouldve been a disaster and they were stuck with me and thats my road to success. I dont know if thats a word, but I would attach myself. Search Peter Feigin: And I'm digging into the business, and I had no desire to run it or to move to Milwaukee. Talk about the steps leading up to pulling off, living the dream, actually winning the championship. As a subscriber, you have 10 gift articles to give each month. And we're going to be the No. He's bigger, Giannis is even outside of the country than he is inside of it. Peter Feigin: No. This was just the very beginning, the first thought was, "Oh, boy. Because I don't think we're really worried about kind of like we would think half a million people are going to die, that what would happen to hospitals and ICUs and things like that. We've gotten through conversations. Were going to constantly improve. I encourage it, and selfishly, its a fun way to network and deal with people. I said, "Man, make sure you represent." Don't talk to me, don't text me, don't come back unless you give me a pair of All-Star socks. It has just been introduced for iPhones, but we are working on the Android version! People who do argue are kind of not allowed back.. Its a difference maker, especially now in our labor market. Can you keep a competitive championship-caliber team across an era? And the Milwaukee Bucks players were the catalyst for that to happen in a big way. We've got one of the global sports stars in the world. Peter Feigin: Well, I think, like you talked about the opportunity for a great historic organization like this to embrace a former Olympian, it's all-star, like a person who's current in the game and really is an asset. You buy the Bucks, you help with that whole negotiation and you were living in New York, so you were married already and you decided. This guy is a relentless workaholic who is selfless to his teammates and like wants to win. Right? John: Go back over that, what it was called typically whats called web3 now, or something the young people around me tell me its called web 3.0 NFTs, crypto sports gambling. This again becomes a platform of an NBA brand extension that just explodes with engagement. Talk about that as far as the league and the individual teams. Feigin is in charge of divvying up the five-man teams at the start of the session and typically includes himself on the strongest squad. The arena is Feigin's baby, and he's almost ready to show it off, as doors will open next season. We've developed about 75% of it and people are living here, working here, and playing. This was the Milwaukee Bucks at the time had lost the most games in the NBA, had the least revenue, had the least season ticket holders, any metric you could measure. Peter Feigin: Khris Middleton, as you can imagine, nobody understands that players have been having to get COVID tested twice a day and you got to come into our training center and we have parking spaces. Peter Feigin: I think nobody could have imagined what that does to you on a personal psychological emotional level. And if a new player does not endear himself to the group, it tends to reflect poorly on whoever invited him in the first place. Peter Feigin, the president of the Milwaukee Bucks, playing defense. Michael Red: It's becoming that and has become that. In 2014, Bucks President Peter Feigin lost his father to congestive heart failure. The whole world is on that balance, so part of what we haven't really talked about much is our culture here. Being able to play ball with your son is kind of like the best of the best, Peter Feigin said. Players, for 50 nights a year, land at 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning to get home and kind of do what the time balance is. I always joke that we could run a country, dAmboise said. Peter Feigin didn't go looking for his job as president of the Milwaukee Bucks. And so, talk about that and your leadership style, generosity and how important it is to give back. My fantasy, I had two fantasies growing up. Hes with us today. Above me there are my two children, my son, Tyler, my daughter, Courtney. Id been in a big market. Peter is a serious businessman and an hilarious friend. Talk a little bit on a fun topic, when I was reading up about you and the team and everything else, I read about this new venture you guys got going over in Wisconsin called the Cluckery and I got hungry looking at the website and looking at the menu. John: You grew up on the Upper East Side, you are a native New Yorker, your brothers still back there. Now youre there, youre rebuilding. Why shouldn't we resemble the city we work and live in, instead of kind of what national things are? Youre going to have a lot of fun. Peter Feigin: Listen. When you are visioning this out, like you just said, human capital, a new physical capital, on the court, off the court, what were you using both singularly as you, as Peter Feigin goes, but also with your partners and the private equity guys, what were you using as your role model? So, the end of the story is I was responsible to hire CEO, so I got two or three candidates I knew Mark and Wes would hate and they couldn't hire them because they didn't like something about them. We're going to develop some residential and we'll hopefully have a great commercial tenant and we continue to build. And that is one of the best ways to summarize Peter's spirit. Even though you're at the World of Disney, even Disney after about 10 days, you're ready to get out of Disney no matter where you are. Peter Feigin: So I think we have that balance. Peter Feigin: Well, long story short, like, six years ago, he calls me and he says, "Hey, can you get to Milwaukee to go meet with Senator Kohl. Now you win, you have the championship. Defenders are responsible for calling fouls. Talk about all the nuances and the dynamics and the pressure was to lead through COVID. The first game goes to 9 points, and every game after that goes to 7. How could we not be good at quick serve restaurants? You and I go back since you came back to the Bucks or since you came to the Bucks and you guys have been incredible to me over the years since you've been in a position in Milwaukee and really grateful of our friendship over the years and how the organization has welcomed me back to the organization. John: It looks amazing. You miss throwing that pass. So, this had been a surreal year and tough as a leader because it's exhausting. He is a legitimate superstar who also manages to bring in the European market. He's Peter Feigin, president of the NBA's Milwaukee Bucks, and in the nearly five years of living in the city he has come to Gee's Clippers so that Gaulien Smith, a black man, can tame his head. So, you take away every form of a 20- to 30-year-old's life outside of basketball, you take away their family in a big way and by the way, then you isolate them, in basically like a stay at home kind of mode in the middle of a pandemic and really like social justice, kind of uprising while they're locked into a bubble. I mean, if I didn't have real responsibilities of a family and a wife, who actually says we need to live somewhere and stuff, I could get paid in gear. Id worked for the New York Knicks. You miss falling on the ground, Dan Feigin said. People can find it at, I saw the website, it was Cluckery, cluckery.com, right? So, we continue to want to make this a place where players are like, "Shit, I've never been treated like this.". I can't even imagine what these guys are going through.". John: Thats awesome. Please talk about the Cluckery because this is so much fun and I wanted you to share your whole, the vision and how this all came about. And until next time, I'm Michael Red. It's like how do I hold my impulsive self to shut the hell up. But youve not only lived the dream but also climb to the mountain and very few win a championship. Michael Red: Hey, everybody, this is Michael Red and welcome to the Betting on Yourself Podcast, where I interview successful entrepreneurs, athletes, and other top performers who rose to the top, took success into their own hands and bet on themselves. There's no way that the reverence, the likeability and kind of the coolness of the Milwaukee can't be a team and a city that the whole world cheers for in such a big way. We always tell people, listen, if you want to work here, youre going to have to collaborate with people. But for the first time since 1992, the game has been shelved indefinitely because of the coronavirus pandemic. Im so proud and honored to have this conversation with you today, and thank you for your generosity of your time. Michael Red: The facilities, everything that you guys have done so far is remarkable. But online gambling, in state by state is massive and how you can center that do you want to become part of a casino? John: Your mom was part of the George Lois generation and Jerry Della Femina and then Donny Deutschs father David Deutsch. John: You talked about your Masters of the Universe being your partners and owners and really some of the brightest people on this planet which of course, thats true. That's like, that's today's kind of like, "What are we focused on?". But talk about that dynamic leading through that. And that's kind of like you do it with great people around you. And people like Wisconsinites are close to imagine a fast-talking New Yorker coming in and kind of standing on the soapbox promising the world and kind of great change and a great building. He perpetuates a culture that attracts like-minded people to him. Just search SNOWCAST in the App Store or click here. But usually, The Run comprises a core group of 15 to 20 players who range from 16 to 58 years old. Giannis was like, Ill make this simple, its got to be bigger than that Lakers ring it might be, and its got to be cool. We wanted like a really cool clean design. There's no living room, there's no central square, there's no big public park kind of in the middle of the city. John: By the way, weve got with us today, Peter Feigin, hes the president of the Milwaukee Bucks. How could we reduce our costs immediately knowing that we weren't operating? But if Woodhouse had any qualms about digging in on defense against various titans of industry, he quickly learned that everyone was competitive. "That was my dream of dreams when I was a kid: Oh, my God.. The people part is always tough. Youve got Jamie Dimon, who is this incredible long-term equity holder who is done it and then youve got Mike Fascitelli whos really was the chairman and CEO of Vornado Real Estate in New York on the commercial real estate side. How do we attack every day with how can we resource everybody who works here to be able to do their job very well. And claimed, so before I did it again, I changed the two spots by the testing place to instead of handicap, they now say "Employee of the Month" right on the floor. And at the core, I've always been a sales and marketing guy. Michael Red: I don't think there's anybody better. They better know you, they better get you. They all had the space, they're at Disney, they have all the amenities. It was important for us for our players, for our organization, for the city to stand up. My wife is like, What are you doing? I dont know what Im doing!. Now, he's the chair of the 2017 Greater Milwaukee Heart & Stroke Walk/5K Run, which is Sunday at Veterans Park . We should put our own definitions and we should continue to improve." He's with us today. The ability to go into an NBA franchise and really pick all the great practices which is going around in the league is a huge advantage. Peter Feigin: And make a long story short, I went with him, I think, the first trip was to Philadelphia and we looked at the Sixers and then we looked at probably 10 other teams over the next decade. Peter: John, the best. I think it starts with human capital, but it really starts with road mapping out each little thing. Step one was complete. And you know what their experience is? As you get older, its just harder to keep up with everybody, he said. It's the same way she'll listen through what I'm going through. That was one of these monumental, incredible, awesome times to get it done. John: I dont want to skip over that. Msgr. In September 2013, then-deputy commissioner Adam Silver announced that Bradley Center, the team's home since 1988, was unfit for an NBA team. Now youve been to the top of the mountain. "We had to build a new arena or we were going to move the team. So, I don't think uncommon to probably everybody and certainly every leader, everybody who has a real responsibility, the last 12 months were like nothing we could have ever imagined, we could have ever thought about and really reacted to. Because I talked with the Lakers guys, I talked with the Boston guys on what they had, did. He and his wife, Natalia, have two children, Alexandra and Thomas. Do we want this guy to keep playing? You build this infrastructure and skill set that is geared toward a championship. Then you talk about what your leadership is and what your purse is so it all starts and ends with Giannis. Number one, growth is so exponentially outside the us, which is like really interesting for NBA basketball, for participation, for media, for social consumption. How do we get the people to try and start the journey to professionalize and really build a gold standard operation. Peter's Hairless Twin is a twin brother Peter Griffin keeps locked up in a storm shed. So, for us, it goes back to constantly being really honest and forthright about where you are and how you can improve. That automatically and having him sign for the next five years, that gives you this springboard that we think. It would be fun to own a hundred McDonalds franchises and you guys would be great at that. Ive been really lucky. I said, oh, its so good to get all your support. We've made it intimate with a 17,500-person crowd. How does it really work? Peter: Obviously, we have like, all of them are employee resource groups. My favorite part of coming to Milwaukee is going into your stash of gear and getting the hoodies and the gear. John: Unbelievable. Before we get talking about all the amazing things you've done in basketball, and just coming off amazing championship. Everythings got to be perfect to do it and dont realize because like, hey, Ive never won a championship before, never run a ring so I just started the process and I didnt realize which I now do and why our owners wanted to be intimately involved with the design of the ring. Give Light and the People Will Find Their Own Way. Before we started this interview, you took a little break and said, John excuse me for a second because someone very special stopped by. Talk a little bit about the ice cream truck, the ice cream man. Feigin's twin brother, Daniel, is director of the upper school at New York City's Trevor Day. You talk about your operating board committee, youve got these Masters of the Universe, and really you start with the answer. A, if you werent doing this and I know this is a dream job. John: Its so amazing you say that. Because, I mean, you lived here for 11 years and I guarantee you, as great as everybody was, they still thought of you as a Columbus, Ohio guy. There is an honor system. Talk about the journey to the Bucks and how did that happen and then why Milwaukee? Yes, we are shiny toy people want to see how you build a project in time and under budget and how youd manage a project. I also listen, I thought, and my parents thought both my brother and I were as you can imagine before ADD was actually diagnosed, Peter: for kids our age and stuff, because its still be on impulsive, relentless, like, [inaudible]. The entity at the center of the controversy the Milwaukee Bucks didn't waste time jumping in. And I think with time, you certainly kind of can take that. We got here and kind of the first job was to look for a site and the second job was to really get public backing to build an arena, to demolish the Bradley Center and build a new arena, which were monumental big things to happen. He's going to sell the team. Theres a lot of people that look up to you and want to be either the next Peter Feigin, or be an entrepreneur and do a startup. I didn't need to do anything. Peter Feigin: Yeah, I think I moved, I graduated from college and had a job, had an opportunity for a job that was kind of nuts. And he has represented at the highest level. I played soccer and basketball, not overly blessed with athleticism. Well, you know about the ice cream truck. He trusts you to run a business and he also ethically says Dont do anything you wouldnt want on the front page of a newspaper the next day, and he means it. Peter Feigin, President of the NBA's Milwaukee Bucks and formerly Vice President of Marketing for the New York Knicks and Director of Marketing at Six Flags, joins me on the podcast today. There's no right equation. How do we change the model, and really put new metrics out there, for us to get it? Youre going to have to work your butt off because its work. He said it. Peter: did active, to get in. We had weekly calls. Peter Feigin: Yeah, I think it's part of the culture and kind of down from ownership, like you're going to stand for something or you're going to stand for nothing. I actually read a whole story, theres a whole article, Peter, about your ring. John: No question. Peter Feigin: They made it really simple. power forward, who lives in Southern California but joins The Run whenever he travels to New York for his job in finance. And kudos to you guys for being cognizant of that. Talk about your organization, community involvement, and the impacts that you get to make both positive and otherwise. Woodhouse had no idea what to expect. It's amazing to see what has been accomplished in a short amount of time," shared Dan Feigin. If you have a partner in life, they'd better be a teammate. You got to be someone that actually that enjoys being here and part of the family culture and part of an organization. So first of all, the bubble was kind of like so exciting, surreal, and awesome. It just kind of really trying. He simplified the commodities business like, oh, I understand it now. The players, nobody has the awareness that, most of our players are between 20 and 30 years old and it's like for the rest of the world, it's like the most developmental time. Feigin, who had held executive positions at Madison Square Garden, Marquis Jet Partners and NetJets, packed up his New York home and went to Milwaukee in 2014. Back when the Feigins (now teenage) sons were much younger, Lasry suspected that Peter or Dan would give them a secret signal to scamper onto the floor if their team was losing. A decades-long Manhattan pickup basketball game is on hold because of the pandemic, creating an emotional void for its rotating cast of actors, executives and regular joes. It's about doing things for the right reasons. As you get older, its just harder to keep up with everybody., Christopher dAmboise, a former principal dancer, Adam Keefe, a former N.B.A. View career paths Pre-College Business Emerging Leaders (BEL) Michael Red: That's exciting, man. So, these guys are thrown into a world where they're responsible for everything, they assume they know everything, and what their experience is. So, for all the listeners, I played in Milwaukee for 11 years over a decade and had an incredible time there. We need to resource this place, like you cant imagine and we need to build an infrastructure that is beyond sound for growth, so not just day one. Now just, we've talked about your background. His talents, hard work and dedication are the driving force behind the transformational vision for not only the Milwaukee Bucks and Fiserv Forum, but for the city of Milwaukee and state of Wisconsin. Sometimes it goes up for judicial review to make sure the run is harmonious, Lee said. Hes very straightforward. Hows Warren Buffett in person as, how exactly? And have you seen that shift a little bit in the city since Milwaukee is kind of spearheading that, the Bucks? How do we think about marketing around the world? Who negotiated in 2018 for the only NFL player to invest and buy 1% of the Bucks, Aaron Rodgers, being Aaron Rodgers, whose genius was that? Whether it was in sports or somewhere else Id probably look to lead an opportunity for a turnaround or a startup. That sounds like a little piece, but that's a big piece in the world. Thats good. Michael Red: Wow. Michael Red: In this episode, we talk about Peter's incredible career accomplishments at major brands. Everybody knows everybody. I mean, that's like, I mean, literally over and over and over again, relentlessly, the whole team to get it done. Peter: We like to be, delusionally optimistic. Listen, for the rest of my life, having a boycott for the game in the bubble where we put a pause in the world. I literally said, "Hey, Giannis, do me a favor. Jesse the Jet, no question. The facilities part was easy. But now, going into the future, obviously in the present now, we got fans at the games now, which I know is massive for the organization. This is a small town, even though it's a big city. How do you balance with that and how do you create that menu that people can pick and choose from? Last Wednesday, Milwaukee Bucks president Peter Feigin told the Rotary Club of Madison that Milwaukee is "the most segregated, racist place I've ever experienced in my life." The full quote,. I suggested a lot of people who would be great presidents, and lo and behold, none of them worked out to do it, so I think they had to default to me to run the company.". If you're going to go look at teams, grab my brother. Michael Red: After knowing you for the last six years, personally, two qualities stand out: Extremely funny and extremely generous. Peter Feigin didn't go looking for his job as president of the Milwaukee Bucks. Make this the best operation, the best facilities and the best place to be because we're going to go compete with everybody to win a championship and nobody's going to question how great Milwaukee is." Peter: it worked in such a great way for me and with a magic wand really evolved into one of the most incredible jobs ever. So, it's a little bit kind of nuts and delusional to go through thinking like you can kind of accomplish or solve or get anything done, but it's kind of the way I've kind of attacked life in a big way. It was just such a big deal. How do you care about it, and Jon Horst is so great on the basketball side. We closed our restaurants down. And I know you had a background in marketing and you worked with the Knicks at certain points in your career. You're a true friend, Peter, at least until you drop the parking ticket on me. Peter Feigin: So, we saw this as the opportunity of, "Oh my goodness. Talk about that process. Right now, its very hard to figure out and understand where its going, because this is the wild West. Peter Feigin, President of the NBAs Milwaukee Bucks and formerly Vice President of Marketing for the New York Knicks and Director of Marketing at Six Flags, joins me on the podcast today. Peter Feigin: So, it was kind of crazy. Peter Feigin: Well, Mr. Red, it's kind of for naught, I'd do anything for you, so this is an easy period of time. Michael Red: I know the whole organization showed a ton of grit from ownership to yourself, to management and players, even losing the Democratic National Convention last year. John: Its fascinating you say that. Then it would move the franchise to Las Vegas or Seattle. I mean, from the local barber shops to the local business leaders, to having owners that are from Wisconsin. And it was kind of an incredible moment. John: Hey, Peter. "Can you imagine? Its all about your partner, it was one of these opportunities where she was just all in and to her benefit, like I owe her forever because it was, like its been an unbelievable, run and a huge opportunity. But talk about that nuance and being in leaders on the social injustice play. Peter: Weve been married like a hundred years. You start and now talk about the major, like you said, you got a great human capital person, you got a great CFO. The entire Saturday morning crew has done a few Zoom calls. And this is how cities evolve. By the way I never wouldve said this seven years ago, I think you have to be involved. Even though all of us who were so engaged into, nothing compared to what that value was, what that emotion was too. Peter: professionalized on a revenue basis, so yeah. We want to win. I played soccer and basketball, not overly blessed with athleticism. Michael Red: It's been wonderful to watch. Talk a little bit about where you even grew up, how you even got here. How does that, and then, with that also because this harkens back, Im old enough, youre old enough even, we remember the Michael Jordan era, he was the greatest player in the world back in his Again, you not only have one of the greatest players ever to play on the planet, but youve also created this culture of retention. 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