The fear of being disobedient to (modernist) Popes made so many many Catholics in the last 50 years compromise. In one such frame, a building that houses a ladder company is on fire, and as the employees look out from a third story window, the caption has them wishing how they could find a way to climb down. I am only asking this question in the hope that you can shed some light on this kind of behavior. But the combox is just getting too much. I had already decided (in agreement with you) to stay away from CMTV and T. Marshall. Most professed Novus Ordites and, indeed, any who recognise in a Heresiarch a pope, live in a sort of miasma where evidence does not rule the position, the position rules the evidence. Unfortunately Voris has much in common with the SSPX in this way. With Thanksgiving Day, many are (or were, depending on where you live) looking forward to getting together at home and spending time with family and friends. Baltimore, MD It includes those who, through no or >>limited<>>limited<<< fault of their own. So whats the opposite of human respect, piety? Oklahoma City, OK Saguto was removed for violating rules about not being alone with a minor apparently. Just because theyre traditional in teaching and praxis doesnt mean theyll always be prudent in every respect. This isnt the behavior of a man who had a change of heart based on a new awareness of truth. Catholics are STILL watching and waiting. I'm not there often just because of distance and time of day on my bike. The repeated and on going links between the FSSP and many of these attacks on Catholics in the SSPX coming from Voris and many other matters is a MANIFESTLY PROVABLE FACT. Ill leave it to you to decide if the jihadist with the cash in hand played a part in influencing Voris to reinvent himself. The thought of home is something that is written into the heart of every human being; while often times it brings to mind a physical house or location, it goes deeper. Liturgical Guides to the Seasons He also is a member of that parish, and the words he used to describe Fr. Clarkdale, AZ No need to be so defensive i wrote a short paragraph to explain things to people who read the blog and comments. If there is a so-called "schism" next month, that will affect the Modernist Sect which occupies diocesan parishes everywhere only. Hopefully, the non una-cum SSPX priests will make the courageous move after the *nothing* in October. We are loathe to believe that our leaders could possibly mislead us, even to the point where certain propositions set forth in an ecumenical council are a danger to the faith. Have you noticed the fall off in comments by the regulars? I think it sometimes gives them scruples. I dont know what changed his mind regarding the SSPX, but whatever or whomever it is has him hooked good. Father Gerard Saguto, F.S.S.P. I remember every word and it is my expectation that Father Wolfe will find someone else to host all the sermons he has been preaching but have not been posted publicly since the sad split with Audio Sancto. Hopefully, if they no longer agree with the direction of the SSPX they havent remained to poison the well as it were. The suit states Father Bouchard's accuser submitted a handwritten note to the diocese on Sept. 26, 2018, alleging that Father Bouchard "asked him to undress and made inappropriate sexual . 3 options 1. And we must distinguish between the two. I wouldnt be half surprised if he granted faculties to the Dali Lamma. (Ive read more of his ramblings than I care to acknowledge.). By contrast, what has Michael done relative to his new understanding? 15:5). I talk to a lot of people In and about the Fraternity. Use those words. But for the Presidents creativity, the College would have failed two years before it did. Zilch. Nashua, NH Most noteworthy here is his utterly preposterous assertion that the SSPX came about in response to some amorphous weakening of the Church.. This takes a toll on an aging trad & many times that is apparent. Anyone who reads Louies blog should, by now, have developed an awareness of the dismal state of affairs in the Church. After being established, North American Martyrs Parish offered its Masses at St. Alphonsus Parish in the Ballard neighborhood of Seattle, with the exception of a single Low Mass every Sunday at Holyrood Cemetery in Shoreline. Within that undertaking will be the discovery of where Catholicsm actually lives on, whole & entire, undefiled, untainted & immutable. God bless. Gerard Saguto, FSSP and Fr. Since the fruits got worse and worse he understood that he needed to protect souls and to warn them about the dangers to their Faith. Nada. Hence the old adage that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.. If left unchecked, we find ourselves in a rut where it seems we are just spinning the wheels; meaning about things that should be important gets confused, or even lost, and a frustration with life begins to set in. The same priest asked me to purchase a picture of the Archbishop (Lefebvre) for the Rectory. radtrad, South Bend, IN Ad majorem Dei gloriam. UPDATE: Having just received a message from a friend on the ground, Im happy to clarify that Fr. I too have been heartbroken by M Voris recent rants against the SSPX and have diverted my financial support to Harvesting the Fruit. I do think it possible to simultaneously hold that Bishop Olsons action was in certain ways unjust to the staff and students at Fisher More while also being critical of the administrative leadership of President King. Mine is no1. This definition of Tradition is what the FSSP publicly holds as a condition of being received into new church. Your rash judgement I hope is based on ignorance and not malice. This, for the love of God & the goal of conversion. https://akacatholic.com/providential-propers/#comments http://archives.sspx.org/archbishop_lefebvre/1974_declaration_of_archbishop_lefebvre.htm, A really good film about todays saint St Joseph of Cupertino well worth a watch Voris then goes on to quote (without attribution) Fr. His visit was strictly Fraternity business; he is visiting all apostolates in connection with his duties as Superior General. hi, Servant of Our Lady, BTW, thanks for the link to the tradcatknight. The FSSP are bad actors. I used to think my family would grow out of it. I dont have close familiarity with any of the people concerned. Dear de Maria, thank you for the time in answering my question. ********** Then he has the gall to post this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBjHH2Eg-vQ all this after what happened at Fisher Moore College! They are within the Church. Certain nearby FSSP priests were drawn into the controversies. ), Supporters of the Society are also discouraged from participating even in FSSP settings because the FSSP accepts Vatican II.. Post navigation The SSPX doesnt tell everyone they meet to avoid the FSSP. Fr. Besides its probable connection to ChurchMilitant.coms zeal against the SSPX, the unraveling of Fisher More College (the presidents fiscal leadership aside) is a stark study just how quickly Church power will coalesce to suppress an institution whose express mission is Traditional Catholic Formation (unless of course the institution was grandfathered in and has swallowed every conciliar tenet proffered since grandfather died). But as a sedevacantist myself, that excuse does not fly. FUNERAL HOMES. Phoenix, AZ Gerard Saguto, FSSP November 15, 2019 From Archbishop Bernard A. ***All Catholics are called to charity toward neighbor. Fresno, CA Father Saguto began serving as All Saints pastor in August 2018. Terry, for his part, quickly took on what my friend called his own jihad against the SSPX shortly thereafter. For once youre ranting, raving & complaining about something other than us evil sedevacantists! Tulsa, OK The upcoming Synod will be a real evil. Lets move to Louies next post! Louie, your blog does not rise and fall by my participation. Join Fr. Had Fisher More College been allowed to stand or fall on its own management and merits (rather than pushed by actors within and out) we might have seen a the start of a formal, independent, institutionalized meeting ground between the SSPX and sundry other traditionally inclined priests and priestly orders. We really have no idea what pressure these FSSP priests are under. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX75xiW2Z54. This is true. hi, scott, All that said, I found it very unfortunate that Bishop Olson yanked away the TLM without providing any alternative using his own resources, either at the college or within reasonable proximity to it. Keep up the great work. http://iconicjesus.org/home/category/objections-to-divine-mercy-sunday/. Listening to audio sancto raised much concern for me a long, long ago. Father Gerard Saguto, District Superior, FSSP "The thought-filled articles of Latin Mass provide an opportunity for needed reflection to help the thoughtful Catholic navigate the gauntlet of our modern secular society." Monsignor Barreiro Please look more closely at this. Nevertheless, I address you here not out of disrespect, but simply because the sedevacantist position is almost always inaccurately sketched out and characterized here & elsewhere. I say that sincerely, recognizing my own faults and shortcomings which may have led to giving this false impression. His position hardened somewhat in his final years (during which, I might maintain, he probably still would have sprung for either the 2000 or 2012 structure deals offered to Fellay, based on what I know of them), but the fact is that he really did try to work obediently if it would be allowed, even to a papacy that was increasingly singing a modernist hymn. Mater Dei Catholic Parish 2030 East State Highway 356 Irving, TX 75060 Phone: (972) 438-7600 Email: - [email protected] For those who are fans of the old Far Side comic strip by Gary Larson, part of his brilliance was his ability to capture how humanity is prone to missing the obvious. Where to begin? If they fail to do their duty then the moral responsibility for the many Mortal sins coming from all of this rest with the leadership of the FSSP and the Bishop of Father Paul Nicholson. God bless you. Id aleeady come across 1 of them a couple of years ago. Lol.it wont be happening my friend. DID I MISS THE PUBLIC STATEMENT FROM THE FSSP? Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Did the FSSP help the SSPX in this injustice? God love you! Sacrificate sacrificium justitiae, et sperate in Domino, Telephone: (570) 842-4000Fax: (570) [email protected], Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter450 Venard RoadSouth Abington Township, PA 18411, SupportPrivacy PolicyMachine Readable Files, Adjutorium Program (Masses for Living and Deceased Members), Webinar Today: St. John Bosco Camp Application Launch. It is a reaction to the dreadful years after the Second Vatican Council which is getting worse by the minute. That said, I do no wish to engage you there, but others might want to- with regard to this. Not good enough for some here. Father Flood has served his term(s) and is more than ready to go back to parish work. Schedule is subject to changes. Tacoma, WA Fr. His Vortexellency has no authority to make this subjective determination as to willful intent. I do believe that theres a thread of influence and someone as familiar with these personalities as Louie would do well to explore it. Are they abandoning it if they fail to adopt the same posture as the SSPX? The Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter has served All Saints since 2013. the point central to the sedevacantist position -that being the Roman Catholic Religion. The 1974 Declaration of Archbishop Lefebvre makes clear where the SSPX stands: The clerics involved in the taken down of Fisher Moore College and these many attacks on the SSPX need to seek out an exorcist. The FSSP is also responsible for the break up of several Catholic marriages. I am really sorry that I ever recommended them to anyone ever- which, sadly, I did. than we do. financially, the college was always on life support. The modernists are suborning the so-called traditionalists. has his way, they just might get one: Fairy(see) Fellay! Chesapeake, VA But they didnt. Voris has so applied his intellect. Mr. David McWhirter, FSSP ('12), are all set to join the priesthood, with three other alumni becoming deacons as well. Fall - Men's Recollection - The Holy Name Society will be sponsoring a Men's Morning of Recollection given by Fr. In real life, the sounds I hear are absolutely luscious and absolutely glorious. San Diego, CA Post Falls, ID I still hadnt found out who Fr. . We wait for the coming of the Son of God-made-Man, the focal point of all history, the only God there is, born to hang on a Cross and redeem us from our sins. I love the Saint so much. They accept the council and while there are priests that personally may object even tell certain parishiners this or that they have by joining one of these groups accepted romes position that the second vatican council is part of the church and tradition. That constancy, Father Saguto said, is important in a world where constant change is the norm. Shame on the FSSP! All evil? We can point out very effectively what is happening without name-calling, and certainly without shouting from the rooftops that this priest, this bishop, this society or association is in mortal sin mostly because we dont like what they have done in particular circumstances. This detraction and extreme lack of charity to say nothing about factual errors has got to be challenged. Im happy to let people know what led me to the place where I currently stand. This side of eternity, there will always be a certain obscurity to Faith because God wishes that we walk in trust of Him; He wants to lead us because our sanctification is His work with our cooperation. Joliet, IL First of all whatever myself or others comment here does not mean that this is louies position or that he even agrees with the comment. Father Wolfe has been transferred. Father Josef Bisig. To spread this kind of crap (totally unsubstantiated) around for thousands to read is sinful. Thanks for the levity. FSSP Missions Calgary, AB The way it is done here by poikolby and some others is NOT the Catholic way taught by Jesus Himself. Zachary Akers (FSSP Director of Development) on the Fraternity's new album, "Requiem". Tyler, TX The FSSP is wrong on the doctrine,principles and the new mass. EWTN's Raymond Arroyo recently interviewed two priests of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter (FSSP): Fr. King and Drumm seemed to want it both ways. There is enough hurt going around from anti-Catholics both outside and inside the Church, without throwing daggers at each other. In allowing myself and others to comment even though louie most probably disagrees with certain things (speaking for myself) shows that louie has great charity and isnt controlled by anyone. I dont say any of this as a criticism of those attending and supporting SSPX chapels, or even their clergy, which also includes some fine priests. If I ever respond with animosity (real or perceived) or have a defensive reaction, I take full responsibility for that & ask forgiveness for the vice it represents. Those who favour the Society of St. Pius X will not change their minds. Joliet, IL I totally agree with you about CMTV. Which I know some people here do. I will take a look at the link you posted. Richard M, Phoenix, AZ . Thomas Paprocki. I do not have a right to say anymore. Views and opinions expressed in the Missive are solely the writers and do not necessarily reflect those of the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter. The majority of sedes beleive the new mass invalid due to the new rites doubtful priestly ordinations possibly invalid and majority beleive episcopal consecreations in the new rite invalid. Liars and cowards is what the two I spoke to wereand one was the former head of the order here in America. Finding little support, the faith infused at Baptism is stifled and choked by the thorns of the world, and it becomes easy to drift away. Take any good news with a grain of salt when it comes from modernists. The SSPX is not under the jurisdiction of the local bishop thats why they are able to talk freely about the council and the heresy of modernism that is rampant in the church today. A distinction must be made when speaking about the FSSP. As such, he looked upon the SSPX and its purpose for existing with, if not with support, a degree of understanding that is now nonexistent. Voris goes into yet another rant about the SSPX being in schism that is so lacking in plausibility that even Karl Keating took to his own blog to criticize it! That a priest who knows that Peter has forbidden him from offering the Sacrifice of the Mass would be so presumptive as to thumb his nose at the Vicar of Christ and say his superiors have given him permission is terrifying terrifying for the soul of that priest. Why all the differences in opinion here ??. Mr. Peter McShurley ('14), Rev. This has had supplied jurisdiction written all over it from day one, and to current, and we didnt need to have the Pope tell us this, but it ought to help the royally confused like CMTV and co. that said, no Catholic at any time ought ever to turn their back on another Catholic.. They are not coming out with press releases, video responses and challenges, threats to sue, etc. I applaud that. Not even one? And whatever Kings responsibility (or lack thereof) for that, you can hardly blame Olson of the Mater Dei priests for that state of affairs. Voris used Father Wolfe FSSP in his attacks. Maple Hill, KS The Church is a home, and that is because it begins with a Person, Jesus Christ, true God and true Man. They remind me of that commercial where the woman walks up to the counter to pay for something and the girl says, I need to see your I.D. and the woman says, But Im your Mother! I am an FSSP parishioner who travels a lot. I hope Catholics will be protected from those responsible. Rapid City, SD In other words I am speaking about what the group believes officially and publicly. I dont follow Mr. Voris. Those who have ears will hear, those who have eyes will see. Father Wolfe has been transferred in the normal round of these and is obviously needed elsewhere. Gerard Saguto was our first pastor. Wolfes gem about things not coming into being by a legal declaration. For the person who knows that the Council is a grave danger to the faith, they have no problem advising against them allowing themselves (and their kids) to be formed in an FSSP parish since we have an obligation to engage those things that threaten to lead us away from the faith. This is part of a much longer and laborious dissertation on obedience that has all the markings of an Epistle from Terry Carroll to Ferndale. Honestly, we all need to be quite compassionate towards one another and realize that we know nothing about each other except that we love the Faith. Domus Generalis FSSP - Chemin du Schoenberg 8 - CH-1700 Fribourg (Suisse) . in the Mass prayers of Advent. Rapid City, SD But not so with you, you came forth to talk. Over the course of the last three days, Michael Voris has put his unholy obsession with the SSPX on display via some 30 minutes of video (with the promise of more to come) featuring over four thousand words a portion of which was allegedly plagiarized (but more on that in a moment. Back in the day, Voris, out of genuine concern for souls, used to lambaste the new Mass as a danger to the faith. dear marian& all, Philadelphia, PA Joseph Terra (hes the FSSP priest who was badly beaten in the attack in Phoenix that killed Fr. Since I am not under religious vows, my opportunities for disobedience are rather limited, since I otherwise adhere to all traditional teachings of the Church. Unfortunately, it is about to go the way of The DuMont Television Network, which was more entertaining. Bishop Fabian Bruskewitz close friend of the FSSP and has does many ordinations for them excommunicated the SSPX in his diocese. Your charge of detraction and extreme lack of charity are baseless and are based on your feelings not on objective reality. Will you also look at the links I posted above? There is a glee I read here when piokolby and rich and some others come out with yet another outrageous statement about somebody. Lexington, KY If I found myself in a place where only an SSPX or Norvus Ordo were available, I would choose the SSPX, hands down, and I would know it was valid thanks to Fr. No one here is committing the Mortal sin of Calumny here against the FSSP or Father Wolfe FSSP. Since becoming a sedevacantist, I have broken contact w/many of my family who consider themselves to be traditional catholics even as they stopped believing in confession when they were in college, attended mass whenever they feel like it, but always go to communion, are sterilized, use birth control, are divorced and remarried, are pro-abortion, are pro-homosexual marriage, dont believe anyone is going to hell, believe everyone is saved w/out being baptized or Catholic, are married to unbaptized persons, never go to mass, raise their children w/these values, never prayed the rosary with their children who are now 35 etc. San Diego, CA The real truth of the matter is that some of them are not doing or saying what piokolby wants them to do or say. His temporal concerns; nothing more, nothing less. Dear de Maria, Register Now. Kansas City/Westwood, KS http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/truth-about-the-sspx-mc-similar-groups/#.VfzYaN9VhBc. This has happened more than once in America. The very word sedevacantist is almost considered profanity. The FSSP offers the Mass according to the form that was in use prior to the liturgical reforms of the Second Vatican Council in the 1960s. Yet, he sticks with it like glue. Scranton, PA On its face, this isnt a difficult distinction to comprehend, but the reason so many find it difficult is very simple: As Catholics we are wired to follow our leaders, especially the pope, just as a child is wired to trust its mother. A home then is not a sum of commands or rules given by a father or mother. But, respectfully, I cannot agree that the FSSP has abandoned Christ through their current status. It must be pointed out that validity is not the central issue. Dear Scott, Lots of us jump in to visit Mr.V., in the midst of raising broods of children & grandchildren, juggling this and that, including old age & a long time witnessing the collapse since before 1963 for example. You are remeniscent of the UBS Executive in the Classic Satire, Network, having turned Michael Voris into Howard Beale and all the Innanity which followed. Call Father Wolfe and ask him about the SSPX! Alarico, thank you for bringing this to my attention. Saguto for a series of conferences over three days, beginning Thursday, August 11th through Saturday, August 13th. Meaning the official constitutions and public documents between Rome & the FSSP. The Radical Catholic blog has confirmed from CMTV that Voris and CMTV plagiarized the sermon of a Priest of the FSSP in his attack on the SSPX. As you say, hopefully someday he will be humble enough to admit his error. Zachary Akers (FSSP Director of Development) on the Fraternity's new album, "Requiem". The society rejects the second vatican council and the new mass although officially dont deny the validity of the sacraments as they are in the new rite. Gerard Saguto, FSSP and Fr. The Society and its faithful simply stayed Catholic such as it has always been and always will be in spite of the conciliar revolution. More like battle weary at times while being good soldiers of Christ. Hope it may help someone to understand the complexity of it all. Quincy, IL your above comments are quite smug and patronizing. At least warn Catholics who cross our path. Things had got worse since 1970 and the SSPX Was trying to compromise its previous postion on the council with rome order to be accepted by rome. You do not have a right to hear anymore from me. It long predated the actions in question of either of them. These attacks are coming from the FSSP, opus dei and novus ordo clerics working with them. Fr. It was also taken in response to related concerns that Father Saguto had failed to observe the safe environment protocols of the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis for interaction with minors (e.g. Below, Ill provide in italics what I consider the most noteworthy parts of Voris videos such as they have been released to date, with my commentary immediately to follow. Mr Carroll has turned ChurchMilitant.com into his Ideological Toy. FSSP Events The FSSP really is apart of the novus ordo. Indeed, contrary to what some may hear about us, we sedevacantists in reality live amidst other Catholics in peace & gracious commaraderie. But they are all liars? The SSPX is not and never has been in schism. There are so many dangers coming down the pike that I find it hard to believe this issue is taking up so much air time and energy. I dont know what it means to be disobedient to the Pope even when doing so would help to save souls. What would such an occasion look like for me as a layman? Both Verrecchio and Voris are about exactly my age born at the tail end of the American baby boomers and although not a bit as courageous or knowledgeable in the faith as them, I really commiserate with both their stories. First and foremost, however, one must be willing to take a good hard look at the conciliar texts and the new Mass and apply ones intellect as informed by faith. They ignore him as youd ignore an ant at a picnic. Do you have any insight on this? The attacks from Michael Voris & CMTV against Catholics in the SSPX would not be possible were it not for the FSSP and the Bishops who ordain Priests for the FSSP. We have been baptized into Christs death, the greatest act of love ever displayed and graciously made available to all. Minneapolis, MN What I am not getting into is the subjective faith and morals of the Priests of the FSSP and the laymen who attend their parishes. Thank you and God bless. However, sadly, the impression is often given that this is not the case. You said it much better than I. I was immediately attacked when I posted a response. He wont say aloud it now for reasons that well discuss shortly. Tulsa, OK The objective truth isnt really all that difficult to see here with respect to the Councils standing in relation to the truths of the faith as they have always been taught. Its quite true that President King inherited a very bad financial situation. If he so desired, in this year of mercy, to also grant them jurisdiction, TMAHICH could do so. FSSP, Diocese of Providence Christine Rousselle is a former DC Correspondent for Catholic News Agency. Peace be to you. At one time, I am certain that Michael Voris would likewise refuse to sign such a statement. Dear Alarico, In a Nov. 15 statement, Archbishop Bernard Hebda said the recall of Father Gerard Saguto, FSSP, was taken in response to an issue that had surfaced in trauma counseling undertaken voluntarily by Father Saguto and brought by him to the attention of his superiors. 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