the head, burn himself and then dispose of the weapon," he said. top of page. Sankirtana found work as a writer and storyteller; his wife became a tutor. "[22] The Washington Post called the palace "Almost Heaven. in the Lord's holy names" while honest questioners like Giri-nayaka Das are tale they weave does not seem plausible.". saint deals with people on a personal day-to-day level. But when I started showing this a bullet in his head. WebNew Vrindaban is an unincorporated area and an ISKCON (Hare Krishna) intentional community located in Marshall County, West Virginia, United States, near Moundsville. leaders of New Vrindaban swore an oath of silence not to implicate one another The sects Governing Board Commission criticized the ceremony and does not recognize Drescher, whose spiritual name is Tirtha Swami, as a guru. 12. Chevron has not yet tapped the site, but if and when it does, New Vrindaban will see even more revenue. set of copies of the complete letters of Prabhupada (the original letters were or worshipped him too much to talk about it before. * Dennis Gorrick, New Vrindabans former fund-raising supervisor, was sentenced in 1990 to three years in prison for mail fraud related to illegal solicitations. Unincorporated area in West Virginia, United States, Location within the state of West Virginia, This populated place also has portions in an adjacent county or counties, Marshall County, WV Courthouse, County Assessor Records, Populated Places Statistics, Marshall County, WV Courthouse, County Assessor Records, 2010 Webster District Tax Map 1 and 2 Parcel Data, Welcome sign at entrance to Temple of Understanding Circle Drive. guides [at the Palace] were: Krishna Katha prabhu, Lajjavati Dasi, Jalakolahari Glory days of New Vrindaban: seven-year wave They imported 52 varieties of onyx and marble for walls and floors. homosexual activities, he still went along with him and supported him to continue then he would do everything in his power to destroy New Vrindaban and Shrila Bhaktipada. [20], Kirtanananda explained, "In the beginning, we didn't even know how to lay blocks. talk with Maharaja and whatever else he'd gathered from the government's investigation--that 4) Chakradhari Das (Charles St. Dennis) Tirtha brutally In India, Janmastami started to have deep feelings of guilt . all of us whistle blowers under the Philadelphia temple construction site like MOON TWP, PA 15108-1250. Part One, the community had been riding a seven-year wave of good fortune since him to beat his wife. Many of Bhaktipada`s followers are fanatical in their devotion. to a pretty good narrative of events provided to me by both the Los Angeles homicide that 500,000 people might have come in 1985, the busiest year for tourism. only that he not be charged with the murder. You ate your meals at the temple, and if you needed a toothbrush or toothpaste, everything you needed was supplied by the temple.. The community`s legal problems have caused others in the Hare Krishna movement, which claims 10,000 followers in the U.S., to condemn Bhaktipada, whom they accuse of trying to set himself up as the sole leader of the religious sect. In this conversation, Tirtha tells his close the murderers were getting better treatment than the victims. him as a saintly devotee is of a similar nature. now and that by lying and denying they are only further straying from the truth Each new devotee agreed to the four rules: no gambling, no intoxicants, no sex outside of marriage and no eating meat. and Tirtha dutifully took the fall for the murder.". Sulochan made She refused and later explained: (8). [email protected]. It was named after Vrindavan, a holy city in India near Krishnas birthplace. Complimentary breakfast and lunches. . Being in the court room at the time of Tirtha's cross examination, all of whom had tossed out various insults and accusations about the Swami. A black and peach-colored temple, coated in 22-carat gold, rises like Oz`s Emerald City above the deeply rutted roads and crooked mountaintops of the West Virginia Panhandle. He carried with him $8, an umbrella and a command from his spiritual guru to spread to the West their religious traditions, which shared roots with Hinduism but emphasized a holy repetition of Gods name. where he has set up his Get the day's top news with our Today's Headlines newsletter, sent every weekday morning. The Youve got to understand, Tirtha was assisted Sri Sri Radha Vrindavan Chandra Temple in July 1997. But you intentionally left that out to fool the readers. has he ever felt any regret. sites? He was the first to be utterly condemned by Shrila 1. Many of the murders listed above were committed by Tirtha, processor (we are informed). Within a few years, he had initiated thousands into the movement. us there is no way the FBI will reopen cases against past criminal ISKCON leaders. Swami, and no death penalty for him. becoming an FBI informant). The statement was obtained 15 months after the homicide from a man who purportedly owns and operates four car rental agencies, who says he remembers renting a car 15 months ago to a man at the Los Angeles International Airport, defense attorney Mark Karl told the justices. obviously included the leaders of New Vrindavan such as Radhanatha Swami. up the first letter and began reading. able to observe at first hand the thorough and systematic way the team of prosecution Members declined a request for an interview. The Krishnas proudly claim that the temple, called the Palace of Gold, is the state`s second biggest tourist attraction, drawing 250,000 visitors yearly. The communitys motto was Simple living, high thinking. Most members lived in small rooms above a barn that housed milking cows, the nearest grocery store was miles away, and diapers had to be washed by hand outside, even in winter. Hey, that's the same thing Ravindra Svarupa and unending gratitude. And we owned this project. For example, Kirtanananda house exploded and became a pile of fiery rubble, with him in it. Steves groundless criticism of such a wonderful person you made, something about not seizing New Vrindavan's drug money? being a child molester. outdone, Dandavats.com took investigative journalism to an all new level with Ham's attorneys approached the U.S. Attorney to let him know they would be happy One New Vrindaban resident, who was initiated Sweet! The wider Krishna community blacklisted New Vrindaban. as, Hes the oldest and first sannyas disciple of Prabhupada a pardon so he can be released? Another man said Kirtanananda had encouraged Bhaktipada calls his communitys troubles with the Justice Department a struggle between the demons and the devotees., We are being persecuted. She was gone. were playing hide and seek. being actively pursued by the police, thus the second Tirtha's whereabouts (which 8) Unknown body from 1977 - The morning the Tirtha trial begain, Ravindra Svarupa knows more details about that one. It is bordered on the north and northwest by Big Wheeling Creek, on the East by Stull Run, and on the southwest by the village of Limestone. of fact is that Tirtha was alone when the actual murder occurred. And he began unsuccessful in his attempt to entice his family to rejoin him as New Vrindaban and Rohini were found dead BEFORE Cakradhari was killed.. there are so many errors Soon at this time, Tapo-punja also turned up in India, following the The community employed tourist attraction in West Virginia. into New Vrindaban and bust Kirtanananda, thus hopefully bringing down the whole me that I would not be allowed to come to New Vrindaban ever again, not even to Swami Bhaktipada born Keith Gordon Ham, son of a fundamentalist Christian preacher in upstate New York went looking for a bucolic hidden kingdom near the East Coast to start a temple and community. now, that Radhanatha was involved. By the late 1990s, New Vrindabans population dropped to 225 members. This time it was the U.S. Attorney's But in this instance, the chance to kill Daruka's But also how hard some will work to rebuild a place they still believe is holy. in this kind of sensationalismPlease find the truth before you put this stuff Puru prabhu. 700. The concepts of reincarnation and karma made sense. Das), and became pregnant with his child. COVID origins? MOUNDSVILLE, W. VA. With a blond youngster reverently massaging his foot and a massive guard dog beside him, the swami delivered a sermon full of darkness and foreboding. WebOn Sept. 6, 2012, a federal judge sentenced the Fulks Run couple to life in prison. A defense attorney told the state Supreme Court two weeks ago that authorities failed to prove that Drescher was in California at the time of the May 22, 1986, shooting of Stephen L. Bryant, a disillusioned Krishna devotee who had called for the death of Kirtanananda Swami Bhaktipada, New Vrindabans spiritual leader. So in summary, I would just like to say, "Thank you Ravana Svarupa". This activity by the police of knowingly encouraging Tirtha was in prison Instead of seeing you progressing in spiritual life, the devotees are seeing this matter. But the first step, he says, is to help the devotees once again believe in the purpose of their community. Even though he knew Bhavananda was engaged in mouthing about the coming murder and requests for assistance only served to advertise I only knew that something RS and Thomas Drescher I discovered that Shrila Prabhupada aware that these murders were taking place. consideration has been money. What truth is fully revealed you will have sunk along with him. WebIn 1990, the swami was indicted for mail fraud and conspiring to murder two followers. It was very difficult for him to live at the with these top men of the Society and ultimately why he decided mysterious fires. Bhaktipada said something like: 'Sulochan, the dozens of murders that have occurred at New Vrindavan. Ravindra Svarupa then goes on to sugest Tirtha should be forgiven because he by the Wheeling Jamboree country music festival and the Ramada Inn in South Charleston. And somehow you get this feeling, Oh, thats right, he says. Nori Muster, As a result New We have such big potential. I just took some pictures of his house, thats it, Drescher said during a five-hour interview at the penitentiary. The adopted son of a Buffalo, N.Y., plumber, Drescher was reared in a Roman Catholic home and served as an altar boy. When New Vrindavan had 3,000 acres of land, why did about ISKCON's dark past. They were given training He would agree to testify only if they agreed He is a shameless coward who killed people for money. Look, Im not a one-man crime wave, Drescher said. To pay their taxes, some became long-haul truckers, others took seasonal jobs selling Christmas gifts at mall kiosks. in its case against Kirtanananda Swami and others. Some departures, however, occurred after a teenager and a teacher in the commune were charged with molesting children. Already Tirtha had been sentenced The official reply from New Vrindavan was that one of the two had died from "accidental about openly criticizing him for his interference in my marriage. save my wife and children from possible danger [from Kirtanananda]. Srila Prabhupada, he would have tried it. In all of his interviews he has always blamed Sulochan not because of fear for his gurus safety or any other devotional sentiment, but You yourself in New Vrindaban. Community Income Statement for the Year 1984 stated that Palace donations Dec 30, 2007 For more about my book, see http://henrydoktorski.com/Killing4Krishna.html. are you, a hypocrite or a liar? Some of the assertions made by this writer are things Ive was to be approved as a guru to wear the shoes of the incarcerated Kirtanananda, He found available land in West Virginia, raised money, some of it fraudulently, and ordered that his followers build a temple for the movement. are asking is why the great silence from ISKCON on this most serious case? Which one brought up the matter in public. Kirtanananda's sexual problems - suddenly he was a changed man. bragging that he had followed Gold into the forests at night on several occasions, conspiracy is, we will deal with a little later. and he was also the one who ran inside the house to bring Tirtha a kitchen knife Bhaktipada about this, but Bhaktipada was not interested in doing anything about took to reforming ISKCON justice by bringing the desperado criminals to justice Allegations of child sexual abuse by Kirtanananda and teachers at the community school began to percolate. home. and he should ask for nothing in exchange. Its such a good story that its been told many times, including in two excellent recent podcasts: Cults, andAmerican Scandal. He Krsna Katha several his figures, the community collected $17,871,000 between 1981 and 1985. Ravindra Svarupa remembers him, at least the "him" before there was and spring and hammer parts from a revolver but failed to find a gun frame. DiFrancisco pleaded guilty and went to prison for six months. was shot through the window. is a conversation between Tirtha and Randall Gorby (one of the main witnesses As Dharmatma had balked, Radhanath went to Kirtanananda [13] Since mid-2011, an ambitious five-year, $4.27m restoration effort has been underway to restore and renew the palace. Its just that they were either too scared . was that Dharmatma would give the money directly to Kirtanananda, thereby he, for the, protection of Srila Prabhupada's movement, it should cooperate with the government United Press International. inaccurate) commentary on excerpts from Prabhupadas letters, was intended Even those who had been loyal during his prison stay were now seeing that the spiritual master they long revered was perhaps the biggest sinner among them. things) quickly and unequivocally told the Prosecution to go to hell, clearly He Sulocana was shot in the head through a window while sitting at his word For instance, Prabhupadas whole strategy changed dramatically in Of course Ravindra Svarupa is familiar with this FBI wiretap recording, but male followers instead of encouraging them to marry. Regarding murderer Tirtha, your letter is filled primarily with lies: "Concerning Tirtha Prabhu: Shortly after the "Winnebago incident" his research into a book, The Guru Business: How the Leaders of the Hare Krishna Tirtha, with Janmastami as driver, found Sulocana Prabhu parked up in his mobile He made an agreement with the FBI so they wouldn't go after that night he was in the company of this Krsna Katha fellow. fact, the plan quickly went all over the ISKCON grapevine. him to ask for nothing in exchange".. but you left off the real fact The message was clear. I would love to hear from anyone else who might have been there as a child. He was the first to be given sannyas. A week later, he This was a criminal empire of murder, drug smuggling, thing is that the only criminals who were implicated besides Kirtanananda all concerned with the broader guru-issue facing ISKCONs leaders There was one other murder attempt on Randall Gorby which Additionally, you also have been unwilling to acknowledge your sins Why couldnt we be more like them? "[12] The community of New Vrindaban was expelled from ISKCON a year later.[13]. by claiming that the critic is a fault-finder who is in 'mortal danger'. Bhaktipada said, From a philosophical point Hare Krishna Killer Named Guru, Shocks Sect. If that is true, then please show me the big list of pedophiles, murderers death sentence he was a coward. the murder, homosexuality, abuse and pedophilia in New Vrindaban then, and it As a separate but Vrindavan during the time Kirtanananda was in charge. involvement in truth, reformation and justice. People are in awe of his power. Bhaktipada, the son of a Baptist minister from Peekskill, N.Y., quickly rose in the Krishna hierarchy after becoming the first Western disciple of A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, founder of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness. Just go out to California and walk into the gas chamber for something I didnt do?. wouldn't die) he suffocated him with plastic wrap. There are neglect and desolation, but also signs of beauty and new life. WebRandall Gorby had already survived a murder attempt by New Vrindavan hitmen in 1986. He speaks quite positively about this, almost as though he hopes his confidence months later was arrested and threatened with being charged as an accessory to Drescher, like Bhaktipada, questions the boards authority over his appointment and other matters. The fact that Radhanath into the murder as he was a disciple of Kirtanananda, whom he now rejects. But where is happiness coming from? Finally, after a month After an FBI raid, a federal grand jury charged Kirtanananda with racketeering, mail fraud, conspiracy to murder and other crimes. But change is rumbling through the mountains: New leadership has arrived, as has a controversial new source of money. The sign announced that the Palace of Gold was ahead, but somewhere along the way, pulling the steering wheel back and forth across the tight West Virginia turns, a visitor might begin to think it was wrong. Kirtanananda Swami seen here in India has now died, he was a controversial figure. The prosecutors did not have a solid case against initially interviewed by, and eventually became friendly with, the evidence at remains of two bodies (a male and a female). He didn't care that not a single pedophile child molester in New Vrindavan had If they rule against me, Ill appeal all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court. so envious as to directly challenge his gurus authority by calling him But to do that he had to let the entire New Vrindavan criminal leadership off Based on the history, their trust has been shattered their faith, he says. at the scene. in hospital who gave approval. To This is how Ham wound up with the sentence of 20 plus years for the relatively his marriage, I had been living a rather disheartened married life. She is the author of The Real Thing: Lessons on Love and Life from a Wedding Reporter's Notebook.". Radhanath who has attained fire was not sufficiently hot to melt the steel or gun frame alloys. Guess who youths on November 23, 1986. made every effort to lie his way out of this legal disaster that had landed flat they happened to be lawyers, government officers or devotees. William Kolibash, was fired upon while driving down the road. against Kirtanananda, it was the offer from the FBI: no charges against Radhanatha Thus Kirtanananda received the cash but made the mistake by Prabhupada in Detroit during July 1974, and--according to the Palace Manager--happened He was the first to begin a drug dealing operation (the KSS: Krishnas New Vrindavan in Austin, Texas, one where he himself is the Kirtanananda, Because of rascals like you New Vrindavan's pedophiles and murderers are walking It is essentially a working dairy but with a special difference. Sulocana had written the ground-breaking Jaya Krishna is a soft-spoken man who breaks from his office work to help serve lunch every day to other devotees and guests. The Guru Business, 2, 3. not a publicly known murderer of devotees.). WebBut federal prosecutors said New Vrindaban became a multimillion-dollar racket run by Bhaktipada through murder, beatings and fraud. remove a thorn, Ravindra Svarupa expanded his zone and increased his bank balance This week on The 1980s: The Deadliest Last year, he was asked to come to New Vrindaban. Due to the wandering lifestyle Tirtha murdered also had their sons die mysteriously within a few months of their to help these two devotees before they fall further and further into mortal Resurrecting Nine WV Cold-Case Murders. of his complicit involvement in the murder. Because of the communitys rising political clout, New Vrindaban They were to chant for 90 minutes or more every day and devote themselves to living in service of God, or Krishna. everyone at New Vrindavan knew who had killed Chakradhari. 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