These would be an excellent fit if the toe box was a bit wider. Carmina vs Meermin: First glance These shoes have seen some heavy use and have been worn at least twice as much as the previous pair. I think one point that was briefly touched on but very important is that the different brands price point will be really different depending where you are. Thats interesting. Old Edlyn is equivalent to a 41.5, * **Winson Qilin** EU42 fantastic fit all round, * **Winson Stark** EU42 Great fit on an engineer, instep is high enough to slip and and off and there is only a bit of heel slip due to the shaped heel. Finally, its worth noting that they have a very robust MTO program where customers can customize lasts and detailing, and they also use a lot of crust calf, where other makers on this list (besides possibly the Asian ones) only use aniline. Crocketts uses good quality raw materials, particularly the upper, but the make is a bit simpler. I wonder brands you may recommend for a person with a deeper broader foot like mine. It is relatively easy to find them discounted, Apologies if this question is in the wrong place. Its a solid fit. The price range for Meermin loafers is $165 for women and $175 for men. My most desired English brand is C&J. Should fit most people TTS. I wrote an article about it many years ago on the Swedish version of Shoegazing (before English was launched) which, to summarise, had the conclusion that its down to vanity. both pairs have a dainite (or dainite-type, in Meermin's case) sole the Meermins have blind eyelets, whereas the Carminas have a brass eyelet that look to match the speedhook finish the heel on the Carminas is quite a bit longer than Meermin's I think that chukka looks nice. Nick horween has spoken at length about this, so shell cordovan chromexcel etc are technically corrected grain. This goes for Allen Edmonds now as well, where they will routinely reach 700 if bought directly from the manufacturer shipped out to Canada. As Im a women who is looking for well made leather shoes, I have even smaller heels than the male feet in comparison to feet length. They are never mentioning it, but the leather is bookbinded. I am just wondering if there is anything else I am missing. However to their credit, Loakes customer service was excellent. Carmina Rain Oxford - 9.5 UK. Very useful for us who buy shoes in this price range. As you mentioned, the C&J sole is flat and not very detailed, but the leather is thick but very supple and significantly more comfortable than any other shoe I have over the course of the day. If your size in a Viberg last is a bit snug I would consider sizing up for GYW. I'm also guessing that either 9 or 9.5 in their new wide sizes would work well. I have not personally verified it since, but I believe that I am at the mid-to-upper end of 10.5 based on other fits. In terms of value I would say CJ handgrade. NF Bootmaker 43.5: Had these modified for a wider waist as the 44 was a bit long. Certainly compared to other parts of the shoe. ??? The difference between, for example, C&J and EG is the same as the difference between them and the cheaper shoes. Meermin: I own a pair of unlined Chelsea boots in the softcalf leather and I have handled and tried on a paid of loafers in the same leather. Either as a good value buy for one who is unwilling or unable spend more, or, as a gateway purchase into the world of fine mens shoes. Im sure PS readers would disagree! I loved the MTO experience there. And of course I could be wrong, but still believe theres something behind it. For They also have choices of colours for those who want to make their outfit pop, with bright and lively colours including red, green, and bright blue. Santoni I have experienced, and I would say the same. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. The question there is how long such value lasts, when the company grows or takes on new costs. Have you ever tried or heard of Idrese? Thanks Robin. However, I continue to buy loafers from Allen Edmonds because they sell shoes that come in 4-5 widths, so its easy for someone with narrow feet to find loafers that fit and wont fall off. We start at the top end of that market, and then gradually work our way down. However, a really bright or unsual patina has never really been my style, and is becoming even less so. Alden Van: 10D - Good fit. Carminas are more expensive than Meermins. Side-note: >90% of the sneakers I've worn over the years have been 10D, mostly Vans growing up and later Asics. I would note that although the shoes I own have tight sole stitching, C&J models without pinking on the soles (for example, the Sydney with rubber soles) are noticeably less sleek. In the long run you will always regret buying a pair that ticks all the boxes, but doesnt have a good fit. in fact my favourite leather is meermin museum calf, while meermin llama I dont really like, and I wouldnt touch their black box calf with a 10 pole. The heel is the most notably roomier and the length actually seems to be the same. So on the making you get all closed channels, you get all leatherboard or even leather heel stiffeners, you get a rounded side on the heel on both inside and outside, a slightly bevelled waist etc. You always get something more for your money (if you avoid big brands/designers) but the best value-for-money options will nearly always have been selected already by the cheaper brand. Carmina shoes are good shoes that firmly grip your feet for extra balance and stability. Viberg 2030D 9: The 9D is probably the best fit I have from Viberg, or tied with the 2040. Ive never understood why they tried to branch out so much. Finally, in terms of comfort, the insoles are much thicker and more comfortable in terms of conforming to the shape of my foot than any other shoes on this list (including Weston) other than Andres Sendra. Thank you for this listing Simon. Former Affiliate Vendor Threads; a Locked Forum. He was also involved in the development of the TLB Artista range, so there is a financial relationship with all of those brands. However Id like to venture another (partial) explanation (I have bespoke garments but no bespoke shoes): If the fit on an RTW shoe is good (comfortable all day, no blisters once broken in), is it really worth moving from C&J handgrade to bespoke? You basically double your costs from stock carry. And they are a Canadian brand not American. You can use these comfortable shoes to show up appropriately for most events, in the most positive ways possible. Ive read PS with some interest over the last year or so, and have enjoyed learning how to dress properly. The C&J hangrade, however, is another story. Please take a look. (And btw, do you know anything about the quality of this Kingsman line they sell on Mr. Try Saphir Shoe-Eze, it actually works. No worries at all, its much appreciated. The heel stiffener is a piece of the internal structure of the shoe, which sits inside the heel cup. Its a company started in 2014 that I discovered today. I can see a grey being useful, but that's about all probably. Lets be honest here, what can you realistically expect from a 250 pair of leather shoes made in Europe, when a pair of sneakers produced under questrionable conditions in some third world country already cost as much if not more? Alden Grant: 9E is a wonderful fit for me in 4060 boots with medium socks. Ive never heard of it or tried it, and probably wouldnt in the future as I say at the top of this most, this isnt my area of expertise really. The manager gave me a significant discount for resoling them but, even after three decades as a loyal customer, I would be reluctant to buy from them again. in 9D my feet can slide right out. No one see this though, its only for yourself. Some heel slip until broken in. The Shell Cordovan, non-Alden Shoe and Boot Thread, Find reviews, recommendations, tips about and appreciation of fine cutlery here. Barker has indeed several models in corrected grain, you find them under hi-shine on their own website. Quality control seems to be non-existent. s. It is my impression that, notwithstanding Cleverleys arm-waving and misdirection regarding their provenance, the Cleverely RTW are made by C&J. Among the many pairs I tried a pair of color 8 CXL beefrolls were the best fitting. I guess the issue is that I've not worn an English shoe before. This is particularly true in the shoe market, given there are few designer brands spending big budgets on marketing and advertising. Meermin shoes come with rubber shoe soles that are hardworn and really sturdy. I mean, if you give the former a high shine they will likely get more attention than the latter with a lesser shine. Goto-san requires tracings to be sized in these and you really should have them done. For something more formal I turn to Carmina which provides the best bang for the buck. I just purchased them and they are in transit from Sweden. Their prices and quality is a good balance. Cnes (above), for example, has been exhibiting in various fairs around Europe, looking for retailers, and is very nicely made, with a bevelled waist and otherwise refined make. And its one of the few industries where youre likely to be buying direct from the manufacturer. I recently started to be more careful about how I track my wardrobe spending. While I like the imperial range, I disagree that Cheaney are at a similar level to C&J; even to my untrained eye the upper leather doesnt seem comparable (scuffs more easily) and is thinner. Ive found having slowly worked my way up the chain that in terms of value for money, its Cheaney, Trickers and Alfred Sargent which have ultimately paid off. The toe length isn't excessive either. Yeah, Luca Rubinacci apparently also has a cooperation with them, which frankly I dont understand, Just for info, Velasca in Italy does have a selection of shoes that are Goodyear welted:https://it.velasca.com/collections/francesine-goodyear Oliver 9.5E: Excellent fit with thin socks, like a glove custom-molded to my foot. If I could make a bespoke last from these shoes I would. Im starting to wonder if the differential is worth it. Seems to be a popular thing to write now. Please check Rafal's thread and patronize a true custom maker. Unstructured toe box feels a touch low, * **Yanko 955** 7.5UK fits snug but comfortable with thin socks to start. I suppose they get away with it because the overwhelming majority of their customers arent that knowledgeable about shoes or leather quality. Similar wide heel to the 1035. The customer service is great though! Former Affiliate Vendor Threads; a Locked Forum. (My feet are only moderately narrow, so I dont have issues with normal width lace up shoes). For what its worth, Ive purchased more boots in the past 3 years than any other style of footwear (dress/service types of models). Sure David. With 10.5D, my feet are usually swimming in the shoe. Common Projects Achilles and Bball: 43 are some of my best fitting shoes, especially the Bballs that have a little more toe room. As mentioned in the top comment, we were focusing on shoes under 300. Thanks a lot Simon. Somehow lower instep than E? HIRO 9: Terrible fit. Its the same width as the 8.5E, but just a smidge longer and is perfect. Forest is a rounded toe, regular instep and more room across the forepart. When changing the width of a shoe e.g. Ive been a big fan of Crockett & Jones, Carmina and Edward Green. Last month, Swedish shoe brand Myrqvist (above) sent me a pair of their loafers to try. Easily the best of the budget shoes and whilst they dont match Crockett and Jones, they are not a million miles away. Loake, Barker, Cheaney, etc. But have you ever disclosed your so called financial situation regarding your reviews you dont pay full price if any price for all these garments you have made for yourself, correct? Carmina shoes are more fashionable and elegant than the Meermin shoes. Thanks for the personal comment it is very helpful and interesting, Any thoughts about the German brand Hammerstein? With its classic and timeless design, this last seems to resist the course of time. Rafal hails from Poland and is a shoemaker who creates each pair of shoes by himself. Carlos Santos are another example of value shoes of great quality to price ratio. When I was measured at Alden Madison and an AE store, both actually said I should lean toward 10D TTS, due to my flat feet and low instep, which led to many bad purchases. Surprisingly minimal break-in but it's been a long time. G. F. G. . Asics GT2000: 11 - Perfect fit. I believe shoes like Meermin have a place in Menswear. I think either would be fine. They've seen a lot of rain, snow, slush and worst of all, salt. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I cant comment as to what anything is like higher up the scale but they are both the best looking and most comfortable shoes I own (more than my hiking boots or running shoes). Carminas are better than Meermin shoes today because of one major thing: Better Material Quality. Ill be reviewing them separately, as theyre more similar to other shoes weve covered. Or about 9.5D right foot and 9.4D left foot. A lot of side to side play in the ankle. Do you not think theres some advantage to dealing directly with the maker, and perhaps an understandable desire from the maker to control some more of the customer experience? Some of the shoes on sale are factory seconds and its not something they outrightly advertise. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Above all of these. If you can spend that extra 100-150 I sincerely recommend buying a pair of shoes from Carmina or TLB Artista. For the brands mentioned in this article, everyone uses split suedes, except Carmina and TLB Mallorca (C&J mainly have splits for Benchgrade, while they use reverse calf for Handgrade). spoo -- great thread idea (I'll soon add my info ). For the price, Meermins are actually really good shoes.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[336,280],'footslide_com-leader-2','ezslot_16',118,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-footslide_com-leader-2-0'); In the long run, Carmina shoes are better shoes than Meermins. Jesper's information was based on information by two Carmina retailers. Thanks for the informative post. Slightly tight on mid-foot for the first day. I spoke to folks at Carmina and got somewhat mixed opinions, the wrench in the equation being size variances on the lasts for both unlined and shell materials. Carmina shoes are made with premium materials that are much superior to materials used for making Meermin shoes. The last of their chukka didnt fit me, but the suede felt surprisingly good for the price. I dont think theyre very different, but no I cant compare directly, as I dont own GC RTW. Leo 9E/9.5D: Bad fit. Heel is kind of big for an oxford shoe it turns out, stick to a boot for this last. Because my older Carmina heel stiffener are longer and substantial that the newer ones. The soles are more durable, the calf leather takes polish better and ages better, elements of the make lead to extra comfort (as do the materials), the make is finer and so looks better, and so on. Stitchdown boots you will get more lateral give across the width of the boot, and with welted products you'll get more . Another area where a lot of the English makers fall down, at this price level and below, is the soles, which arent as good as Spanish brands in general. Little bit of heel wiggle room. Maybe even a philosophical one. Thats the opposite advice I received on rain from someone else. Im not sure who and why the person you talked with from Barker said anything else, but a quick visit to their website or just a Google will you show you that he or her were wrong. After further research I stand by my words. Some of the best dress shoes that you can get with your money today are the Carminas and the Meermins. You found 1 size in that last worked for you though? Initially uncomfortably tight across the vamp in shell and with moderate heal slip. The shoe comes on Meermin's Ama last, which is of a classic and elegant shape. Nice to hear your journey Joshua. Jason: Thats a real shame. Alden Van (unlined shell): 10D, ended up selling before fully breaking in. 9.5D heel to toe. I wear chup socks with all of my shoes and boots these days, but for some of these I wore Darn Tough crew light or Darn Tough cushioned boot socks. I cant imagine very people are going to buy a sports jacket or merino sweater there. Is there a reason for that? Like the arbitrary claim that the soles on English soles wear out more quickly than European ones. I have had great buys from Tricker none were country shoes, but one pair had channeled soles, which even at full price would have been a bargain. Simon: I understand that there are certain differences between more expensive shoes and less expensive shoes. This includes Loake 1880, Carlos Santos, Morjas, Myrqvist, Skolyx, Grenson, Carmina and TLB Artista and Id like to share some of my experiences. are priced above the equivalent Allen Edmonds, usually at an Alden equivalent price. Im keeping an eye open for Skomaker Dagestad Yamagata make-ups in the future. I have a review of a pair of them here on Shoegazing: https://shoegazing.com/2016/08/12/review-crownhill-shoes-the-stewart/. Wide midfoot, but a touch low instep which translates to average volume, just squashed a bit down. Switching to thin socks gives a very relaxed fit. very snug in the toes. The instep is high, but massive on the service boot pattern. I agree they provide an excellent service and are great ambassadors for the brand, which is why I think it is clever of them as a company not to be involved in the complexity of rents, leases, employees etc. To me, theyd come in just below C&J, Loding in Canada had a service (a couple years back) that involved a full time patina specialist in Montreal. Sendra is a factory that makes for a lot of cheaper start-ups, because theyre so flexible and have no minimums. I agree that they might be a touch conservative (although they do now have more stylised lasts compared to a few years back), and that youre less likely to get more interesting leathers like museum calf or patinated. The EG just feel better than both ever did straight out of the box, but Im not sure how psychological that is! At least in the States, TLB comes in less expensive than C&J even after the customization upcharge and even if you select the higher-quality Artista line. Im trying to decide between the following two options: 1) Myrqvist Molle Loafers @ 151 per pair, 2) Trickers Elton Loafers @ 225 per pair (on sale). I wear the same size in rain shell as in xim unlined. Its a smidge roomy, but I don't believe going an extra half down would have worked and I prefer boots to be worn with boot socks. I'd probably be good with a 10E. AE has excellent customer service to this day. The soles have also had some quality issues my shoes have channeled soles, and the top layer has peeled off repeatedly at the edges. Great advice Edric, thanks for helping Oliver. Do you think a knowledgeable observer like yourself could tell the difference in leather quality when they are being worn on someone elses feet (can you spot the difference in leather quality between CJ and EG when someone else is wearing them and your eyes are 6 plus feet away)? Grant Stone Alexander 8.5E: hoping these fix the sizing issues.**. Can you please comment on the poor quality of English soles mentioned. Great article I wonder what you think of the dilemma I currently find myself in?.. The Septieme Larguer felt very similar to the Andres Sendra from what I remember. In durability? For reference, previous sizing threads 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 for extra data points. I find that you almost always get what you pay for when it comes to goodyear welted shoes and both of these shoemakers are a big step up from all the budget tier brands I have tried in terms of materials, fit, craftmanship and durability. Im looking to acquire a couple of pairs of tassel loafers (one dark brown suede and one black calf). Noel: That was the point I was trying to make, when I wrote: whats my experience, and I know for many others as well who have good bespoke shoes, is that the experience of wearing them, with the snug comfortable fit, excellent arch support etc, widely triumph wearing RTW/MTO Goodyear welted shoes. Viberg 2005EE 9: (there is a D version available from MTO only) I have these in an old 2013 Sample service boot and the engineer which is what its normally found on. Giro bike shoes: 45.5 EU - Great fit. Id also echo other comments that a trip to the factory outlet shops in Northampton is well worth it. Looking forward to this. Not sure I'd feel the same today. document.getElementById("ak_js_1").setAttribute("value",(new Date()).getTime()); Footslide.com is a full-time participant of the Amazon Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com, 2023 Footslide.com | All Rights Reserved. Rock Your Socks- show your sock, shoe & pant combos, *DROP 3/1* NWT $240 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Navy Linen & Mulberry Silk Twill Neck Tie, * DROP 3/1 * NWT $225 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Square Knit Solid Black Silk Neck Tie, R.M.Williams Comfort Craftsman Tobacco Suede UK 8.5 H. OGIO Golf Travel Bags The Royal Experience! Foot extends past footbed on sides. Would you have any insight into the quality of the GC ready to wear versus C&J handgrade please? What type of heel stiffener do they use? He is, at the moment, offering something special forum readers. Youre better off looking at the tannery the leather came from and if it had a recognizable leather name (cxl for example) but even within that there are gradations on the product from the same tannery. I beg to disagree. Ive purchased two pairs over the past 10 months from brands in this article. Particularly for certain watches perhaps, although less likely for certain muted bespoke suits which might fit better but wont look more expensive than a good of-the-peg one. Have been on a Brannock only once. Interesting to hear you sized up for Simpson when based on your description above you Could probably have stayed on an 8. However, when I visited meermin pop up in London, I dont think I would ever get a black box calf from them! I have been tempted for a while to try a pair of bespoke shoes to see if it truly is a large step up in comfort. 9.5D heel to ball, just a smidge under 9.5D on heel to toe. Good article. Arch support is nowhere near the 55 last but feels much more substantial than any other maker listed. Of course manufacturing anything is significantly cheaper in Spain than the UK so the Spanish manufacturers are off to a good start in that regard with labour costs. I can only speak for Cheaney, but the staff were very helpful and there was a good range when I visited around 7 months ago. The arch is prominent, not as much as the White's Archease. Very few English RTW offer much in the way of narrow lasts. Hence, vanity wins (maybe). I have dainite soled storm welted trickers penny loafers and also commando soled stows, and I cant see myself wearing them much with anything aside from jeans or super casual chinos/corduroys. This is more important for those that dont find heels fit them well, generally. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Well start with three Swedish ones, all making in Spain or Portugal. Crockett & Jones (bench grade): I own the Alex (wholecut on 348 last). Eastman MiM Camp moc in CXL: 10.5D, took months to stretch but fit amazingly barefoot or with thin to medium thick socks now. Since that was my advice in your survey, I can only but congratulate. Jesper concludes by saying: You cant expect to get a really premium shoe for an entry-level price, and you shouldnt get too excited at places that promise that. I usually just buy shoes in the 500 range when they go on sale for 200-300, but in the 300 range I really like the Austrian manufacturer Handmacher; they make shoes on traditionally boxy Viennese lasts, and they use tiny wooden nails to connect the soles to the uppers. There are many brands in that segment, such as Joeworks or October Tenth, that I think might appeal to a fair number of PS readers. Allen Edmonds 511 9.5D: Seemed like a bad fit or just poorly lasted. Im an Alden fanboy with the exception of longwings. Very comfortable, heel is a smidge roomy, but overall an extremely comfortable last. Measured as 9.5 D. Will get more detailed measurements after the pandemic, along with a military last fitting. AE is placed well below C&J and Carmina, lacklusterly portrayed together with cheaper brands, and tied with Loake. Very snug toe box, foot extends past footbed on sides; too much vertical space even with tongue pad, resulting in lots of heel slip and overlapping facings. Being cheaper is an objective description of price. Perhaps more time and break in on the stiff leather sole would make it work. Hello Simon, it would be interesting to have an additional piece about brands a tier above those, e.g. What struck a cord for me is consistency of (most) english manufacturers. On the other hand, Meermins wont last you as long as Carminas will. Simon, I doubt even your wealthier readers walk around every day in 500 plus shoes. Unless there is also a considerable increase in quality, Id say this reposition leaves Church as even less of a value for money option. Dedicated to informing, teaching, and sharing. A bit surprised that you had the experience with Berluti, they have a pretty good reputation. So yes, you get more durable suede shoes higher up in the price ranges. Bought before I understood my size. Not sure I'd feel the same today. Arch support was a bit painful the first wear but feels great after a few hours. Permanent Style is the UK authority on classic and luxury menswear. Back to Morjas specifically. regards judging quality by calf not suede? My 20 year old AS are still in great shape as are my relatively newer C&J Luckily it did a tiny bit making it bearable, but damn they are still uncomforable I have to admit. Any sock works but medium thickness (Darn Tough light cushion) is ideal. High Top vs Low Top Boxing Shoes: Which Is Best for You? Career and job listings in fashion, mens clothing, Reviews of Classifieds and classifieds sellers, No Man Walks Alone - Official Affiliate Thread (a.k.a. Related/unrelated, I find myself in flux style wise right now in the early stages of coming out of Covid. Meermin shoes are highly trendy and fashionable shoes. Coming up on the PS Shop this Autumn/Winter, Tailoring for travelling: tough, comfortable, plain, So in order to create a frame of reference, I phoned Jesper Ingevaldsson, who writes the website, These are two of the best known shoe brands internationally, with Crocketts a British mainstay and, The English brands at this price level are, The level above that is made in Japan, and includes brands like, . In the same way as it is well-known that, in general, the quality control of British brands in all price ranges is better than in Spain and Italy, British shoes almost always have a very even, solid level). Of course second pairs usually come out better, and know there can be customers nagging on very small things, but certainly doesnt sound like it in your case. Carmina shoes are more comfortable, stable, flexible, durable, and stylish than the Meermin shoes. Finally and most importantly, find a last that truly fits your feet. 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